The eroticism of statues and the rhetoricism of phantasms. A contrast between the mimetic productions of the philosopher and of the sophist in Plato

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Autor(a) principal: Forciniti, Martín Sebastián
Data de Publicação: 2014
Tipo de documento: Artigo
Idioma: por
Título da fonte: Hypnos
Texto Completo: https://hypnos.org.br/index.php/hypnos/article/view/86
Resumo: In this paper I compare the erotic bond between the philosopherand his young beloved, as described in Phaedrus 249b-256b, with the rhetoricalrelationship established between the sophist and the people, as described inSophist 232b-236d and 265a-268d. I postulate that these are two structurallyanalogous cases of mimetic production. The first results in an ágalma (“holystatue”), while the second produces a phántasma (“simulation”). I identify thesimilarities and differences between the elements involved in each production,and conclude by questioning the supposed safety of philosophic erotics on theone hand and the alleged harmfulness of sophistic rhetoric on the other.
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spelling The eroticism of statues and the rhetoricism of phantasms. A contrast between the mimetic productions of the philosopher and of the sophist in PlatoErótica de las estatuas y retórica de los fantasmas. Una contraposición entre las producciones miméticas del filósofo y el sofista en PlatónPlatónÁgalmaPhántasmaMímesisPlatãoÁgalmaPhántasmaMímesisIn this paper I compare the erotic bond between the philosopherand his young beloved, as described in Phaedrus 249b-256b, with the rhetoricalrelationship established between the sophist and the people, as described inSophist 232b-236d and 265a-268d. I postulate that these are two structurallyanalogous cases of mimetic production. The first results in an ágalma (“holystatue”), while the second produces a phántasma (“simulation”). I identify thesimilarities and differences between the elements involved in each production,and conclude by questioning the supposed safety of philosophic erotics on theone hand and the alleged harmfulness of sophistic rhetoric on the other.En este trabajo comparo el vínculo erótico entre el filósofo y su joven amado, tal como es descripto en Fedro 249b-256b, con la relación retórica que el sofista establece con el pueblo, según Sofista 232b-236d y 265a-268d. Postulo que se trata de dos casos estructuralmente análogos de producciones miméticas. El primero da como resultado un ágalma, (“estatua sagrada”), mientras que el segundo genera un phántasma (“simulacro”). Identifico las semejanzas y diferencias entre los elementos que participan de cada producción, para concluir poniendo en cuestión la pretendida inocuidad de la erótica filosófica, así como la supuesta nocividad de la retórica sofística.Revista HypnosHypnos Journal2014-02-23info:eu-repo/semantics/articleinfo:eu-repo/semantics/publishedVersionapplication/pdfhttps://hypnos.org.br/index.php/hypnos/article/view/86Revista Hypnos; n. 33 (2014)Hypnos Journal; No. 33 (2014)2177-53461413-9138reponame:Hypnosinstname:Faculdade de São Bento (FSB)instacron:FSBporhttps://hypnos.org.br/index.php/hypnos/article/view/86/86Copyright (c) 2014 Martín Sebastián Forcinitiinfo:eu-repo/semantics/openAccessForciniti, Martín Sebastián2015-09-06T01:57:43Zoai:ojs.hypnos.org.br:article/86Revistahttps://hypnos.org.br/index.php/hypnosPRIhttps://hypnos.org.br/index.php/hypnos/oairachelgazolla@gmail.com2177-53461413-9138opendoar:2023-01-13T09:46:46.975946Hypnos - Faculdade de São Bento (FSB)false
dc.title.none.fl_str_mv The eroticism of statues and the rhetoricism of phantasms. A contrast between the mimetic productions of the philosopher and of the sophist in Plato
Erótica de las estatuas y retórica de los fantasmas. Una contraposición entre las producciones miméticas del filósofo y el sofista en Platón
title The eroticism of statues and the rhetoricism of phantasms. A contrast between the mimetic productions of the philosopher and of the sophist in Plato
spellingShingle The eroticism of statues and the rhetoricism of phantasms. A contrast between the mimetic productions of the philosopher and of the sophist in Plato
Forciniti, Martín Sebastián
Platón
Ágalma
Phántasma
Mímesis
Platão
Ágalma
Phántasma
Mímesis
title_short The eroticism of statues and the rhetoricism of phantasms. A contrast between the mimetic productions of the philosopher and of the sophist in Plato
title_full The eroticism of statues and the rhetoricism of phantasms. A contrast between the mimetic productions of the philosopher and of the sophist in Plato
title_fullStr The eroticism of statues and the rhetoricism of phantasms. A contrast between the mimetic productions of the philosopher and of the sophist in Plato
title_full_unstemmed The eroticism of statues and the rhetoricism of phantasms. A contrast between the mimetic productions of the philosopher and of the sophist in Plato
title_sort The eroticism of statues and the rhetoricism of phantasms. A contrast between the mimetic productions of the philosopher and of the sophist in Plato
author Forciniti, Martín Sebastián
author_facet Forciniti, Martín Sebastián
author_role author
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dc.subject.por.fl_str_mv Platón
Ágalma
Phántasma
Mímesis
Platão
Ágalma
Phántasma
Mímesis
topic Platón
Ágalma
Phántasma
Mímesis
Platão
Ágalma
Phántasma
Mímesis
description In this paper I compare the erotic bond between the philosopherand his young beloved, as described in Phaedrus 249b-256b, with the rhetoricalrelationship established between the sophist and the people, as described inSophist 232b-236d and 265a-268d. I postulate that these are two structurallyanalogous cases of mimetic production. The first results in an ágalma (“holystatue”), while the second produces a phántasma (“simulation”). I identify thesimilarities and differences between the elements involved in each production,and conclude by questioning the supposed safety of philosophic erotics on theone hand and the alleged harmfulness of sophistic rhetoric on the other.
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