The presence in the beginning: a gnoseological argument about the difference between Plato and Plotinus

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Autor(a) principal: Gutierrez, Raul
Data de Publicação: 2022
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Título da fonte: Revista Archai (Online)
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Resumo: The acceptance of the identity of the Idea of the Good and the One does not necessarily implies that Plato and Plotinus understand it in the same way, as Gerson has recently sustained. The difference, I intend to show, is supported by a gnoseological aspect of their philosophies. Even if both philosophers accept the possibility of arriving at a presence in the principle itself, and even if they use the same erotic metaphor to describe it, this presence means for Plato the flourishing of Nous and the generation of episteme, whereas for Plotinus it is superior to episteme and requires the complete retirement not just of intellection, but also of the desire to think the Good. Correspondingly, Plato considers the Good/One as a Form - as the Form of Forms - at the summit of being and the intelligible realm, while Plotinus conceives it as aneideon, amorphon and apeiron, and therefore, as radically transcendent to being and thinking.
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spelling The presence in the beginning: a gnoseological argument about the difference between Plato and PlotinusLa presencia en el principio: un argumento gnoseológico sobre la diferencia entre Platón y PlotinopresenceprincipleNousepistemeerospresenciaprincipioNousepistemeerosThe acceptance of the identity of the Idea of the Good and the One does not necessarily implies that Plato and Plotinus understand it in the same way, as Gerson has recently sustained. The difference, I intend to show, is supported by a gnoseological aspect of their philosophies. Even if both philosophers accept the possibility of arriving at a presence in the principle itself, and even if they use the same erotic metaphor to describe it, this presence means for Plato the flourishing of Nous and the generation of episteme, whereas for Plotinus it is superior to episteme and requires the complete retirement not just of intellection, but also of the desire to think the Good. Correspondingly, Plato considers the Good/One as a Form - as the Form of Forms - at the summit of being and the intelligible realm, while Plotinus conceives it as aneideon, amorphon and apeiron, and therefore, as radically transcendent to being and thinking.La aceptación de la identidad de la Idea del Bien con lo Uno no necesariamente implica, como recentemente ha sostenido Gerson (2019), que Platón y Plotino comparten esa identificación en los mismos términos. Para insistir en esta diferencia me apoyo en un argumento gnoseológico. Si bien ambos filósofos sostienen la posibilidad de acceder a una presencia en el principio y para describirla recurren a una metáfora erótica, para Platón esa presencia implica la realización plena del Nous en la aprehensión noética del Bien y la generación de episteme, mientras que para Plotino implica el recogimiento no solo de la intelección, sino del deseo mismo de inteligir para acceder a una presencia superior a la episteme. Consecuentemente, Platón concibe al Bien/Uno como Idea - como Idea de Ideas - y cúspide del ser y lo inteligible, mientras que Plotino lo concibe como aneideon, amorfon y apeiron, y, por ende, como radicalmente transcendente al ser y al pensar.Cátedra UNESCO Archai (Universidade de Brasília); Imprensa da Universidade de Coimbra, Portugal; Annablume Editora, São Paulo, Brasil2022-04-15info:eu-repo/semantics/articleinfo:eu-repo/semantics/publishedVersionArticlesArtigosapplication/pdfhttps://periodicos.unb.br/index.php/archai/article/view/4813610.14195/1984-249X_32_08Revista Archai; No. 32 (2022): Archai 32 (2022); e03208Archai Journal; n. 32 (2022): Archai 32 (2022); e032081984-249X2179-4960reponame:Revista Archai (Online)instname:Universidade de Brasília (UnB)instacron:UNBspahttps://periodicos.unb.br/index.php/archai/article/view/48136/36750Copyright (c) 2022 Raul Gutierrezhttps://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0info:eu-repo/semantics/openAccessGutierrez, Raul2023-04-18T16:52:34Zoai:ojs.pkp.sfu.ca:article/48136Revistahttps://periodicos.unb.br/index.php/archaiPUBhttps://periodicos.unb.br/index.php/archai/oai||archaijournal@unb.br|| cornelli@unb.br1984-249X1984-249Xopendoar:2023-04-18T16:52:34Revista Archai (Online) - Universidade de Brasília (UnB)false
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La presencia en el principio: un argumento gnoseológico sobre la diferencia entre Platón y Plotino
title The presence in the beginning: a gnoseological argument about the difference between Plato and Plotinus
spellingShingle The presence in the beginning: a gnoseological argument about the difference between Plato and Plotinus
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title_short The presence in the beginning: a gnoseological argument about the difference between Plato and Plotinus
title_full The presence in the beginning: a gnoseological argument about the difference between Plato and Plotinus
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description The acceptance of the identity of the Idea of the Good and the One does not necessarily implies that Plato and Plotinus understand it in the same way, as Gerson has recently sustained. The difference, I intend to show, is supported by a gnoseological aspect of their philosophies. Even if both philosophers accept the possibility of arriving at a presence in the principle itself, and even if they use the same erotic metaphor to describe it, this presence means for Plato the flourishing of Nous and the generation of episteme, whereas for Plotinus it is superior to episteme and requires the complete retirement not just of intellection, but also of the desire to think the Good. Correspondingly, Plato considers the Good/One as a Form - as the Form of Forms - at the summit of being and the intelligible realm, while Plotinus conceives it as aneideon, amorphon and apeiron, and therefore, as radically transcendent to being and thinking.
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