Recognition and politics within the dialectical tradition: the Athenian, Marx and Lenin

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Autor(a) principal: Frota Dillenburg, Fernando
Data de Publicação: 2023
Outros Autores: Koutchin de Almeida, André
Tipo de documento: Artigo
Idioma: por
Título da fonte: Textos & contextos (Porto Alegre)
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Resumo: This article aims at drawing attention to a series of inquiries that may and, in our view, still should be asked about a supposed, unique and definitive political doctrine of Plato. Then, initially, the following question is raised: The Republic, one of the most famous and commented dialogues written by Plato, would be in fact the only moment of “his” work in which this author would express “his” political theory (communist)? Supported by Hector Benoit’s immanentist reading and interpretation of the Platonic dialogues, we hypothetize that Plato, not being Socrates, exposed -through a character called Athenian – in his last dialogue, The Laws, in the temporality of the lexis, a project of city radically different from that on The Republic. Such a project is based on the unity of contradictories for the educational formation of the inhabitants of a city composed of friends who really had all things in common; city that should be put into practice, and not just in the metaphysical soul of the philosopher, as Socrates idealistically proposed in The Republic. Thus, far from having abandoned, as some interpreters argue, his youthful communist positions, Plato would have in fact found them, at the end of his life, in a more rigorously determined way. At the end of our article, Marx and Lenin take on the leading role, which suggests that political theory is one of the guiding threads of the millennial dialectical tradition.
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spelling Recognition and politics within the dialectical tradition: the Athenian, Marx and LeninReconhecimento e política no interior da tradição dialética: Sócrates, o Ateniense, Marx e LêninPlatãoSócratesMarx Lênindialética.PlatoSocrates Marx Lenindialectics.This article aims at drawing attention to a series of inquiries that may and, in our view, still should be asked about a supposed, unique and definitive political doctrine of Plato. Then, initially, the following question is raised: The Republic, one of the most famous and commented dialogues written by Plato, would be in fact the only moment of “his” work in which this author would express “his” political theory (communist)? Supported by Hector Benoit’s immanentist reading and interpretation of the Platonic dialogues, we hypothetize that Plato, not being Socrates, exposed -through a character called Athenian – in his last dialogue, The Laws, in the temporality of the lexis, a project of city radically different from that on The Republic. Such a project is based on the unity of contradictories for the educational formation of the inhabitants of a city composed of friends who really had all things in common; city that should be put into practice, and not just in the metaphysical soul of the philosopher, as Socrates idealistically proposed in The Republic. Thus, far from having abandoned, as some interpreters argue, his youthful communist positions, Plato would have in fact found them, at the end of his life, in a more rigorously determined way. At the end of our article, Marx and Lenin take on the leading role, which suggests that political theory is one of the guiding threads of the millennial dialectical tradition.objetivo deste artigo é o de chamar atenção para uma série de questionamentos que podem e, a nosso ver, ainda  devem ser feitos, acerca de uma suposta, exclusiva e definitiva doutrina política de Platão. Para tanto, inicialmente, é levantada a seguinte pergunta: A República, um dos mais célebres e comentados diálogos escritos por Platão, seria, de fato, o único momento de “sua” obra em que este autor expressaria a “sua” teoria política (comunista)? Amparados na leitura e interpretação imanentista de Hector Benoit a respeito dos diálogos platônicos, partimos da hipótese de que Platão, não sendo Sócrates, expôs – através de um personagem denominado Ateniense – em seu último diálogo na temporalidade da léxis, As Leis, um projeto de cidade radicalmente distinto daquele d’A República. Tal projeto se baseia na unidade dos contraditórios para a formação educacional dos habitantes de uma cidade composta por amigos que tivessem todas as coisas realmente em comum; cidade que deveria ser realizada na prática, e não apenas na metafísica alma do filósofo, como Sócrates haveria proposto idealisticamente n’A República. Assim, longe de ter abandonado os seus posicionamentos comunistas da juventude, como defendem alguns intérpretes, Platão, ao final da vida, teria, na realidade, os encontrado de modo mais rigorosamente determinado. No final do artigo, Marx e Lênin assumem o protagonismo, o que sugere ser a teoria política um dos fios condutores da milenar tradição dialética.Editora da PUCRS - ediPUCRS2023-11-07info:eu-repo/semantics/articleinfo:eu-repo/semantics/publishedVersionapplication/pdfhttps://revistaseletronicas.pucrs.br/ojs/index.php/fass/article/view/4465310.15448/1677-9509.2023.1.44653Textos & Contextos (Porto Alegre); Vol. 22 No. 1 (2023): Single Volume ; e44653Textos & Contextos (Porto Alegre); v. 22 n. 1 (2023): Número Único ; e446531677-950910.15448/1677-9509.2023.1reponame:Textos & contextos (Porto Alegre)instname:Pontifícia Universidade Católica do Rio Grande do Sul (PUCRS)instacron:PUC_RSporhttps://revistaseletronicas.pucrs.br/ojs/index.php/fass/article/view/44653/28182http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0info:eu-repo/semantics/openAccessFrota Dillenburg, FernandoKoutchin de Almeida, André2023-12-22T13:57:17Zoai:ojs.revistaseletronicas.pucrs.br:article/44653Revistahttps://revistaseletronicas.pucrs.br/ojs/index.php/fassPUBhttps://revistaseletronicas.pucrs.br/ojs/index.php/fass/oaitextos@pucrs.br1677-95091677-9509opendoar:2023-12-22T13:57:17Textos & contextos (Porto Alegre) - Pontifícia Universidade Católica do Rio Grande do Sul (PUCRS)false
dc.title.none.fl_str_mv Recognition and politics within the dialectical tradition: the Athenian, Marx and Lenin
Reconhecimento e política no interior da tradição dialética: Sócrates, o Ateniense, Marx e Lênin
title Recognition and politics within the dialectical tradition: the Athenian, Marx and Lenin
spellingShingle Recognition and politics within the dialectical tradition: the Athenian, Marx and Lenin
Frota Dillenburg, Fernando
Platão
Sócrates
Marx
Lênin
dialética.
Plato
Socrates
Marx
Lenin
dialectics.
title_short Recognition and politics within the dialectical tradition: the Athenian, Marx and Lenin
title_full Recognition and politics within the dialectical tradition: the Athenian, Marx and Lenin
title_fullStr Recognition and politics within the dialectical tradition: the Athenian, Marx and Lenin
title_full_unstemmed Recognition and politics within the dialectical tradition: the Athenian, Marx and Lenin
title_sort Recognition and politics within the dialectical tradition: the Athenian, Marx and Lenin
author Frota Dillenburg, Fernando
author_facet Frota Dillenburg, Fernando
Koutchin de Almeida, André
author_role author
author2 Koutchin de Almeida, André
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dc.contributor.author.fl_str_mv Frota Dillenburg, Fernando
Koutchin de Almeida, André
dc.subject.por.fl_str_mv Platão
Sócrates
Marx
Lênin
dialética.
Plato
Socrates
Marx
Lenin
dialectics.
topic Platão
Sócrates
Marx
Lênin
dialética.
Plato
Socrates
Marx
Lenin
dialectics.
description This article aims at drawing attention to a series of inquiries that may and, in our view, still should be asked about a supposed, unique and definitive political doctrine of Plato. Then, initially, the following question is raised: The Republic, one of the most famous and commented dialogues written by Plato, would be in fact the only moment of “his” work in which this author would express “his” political theory (communist)? Supported by Hector Benoit’s immanentist reading and interpretation of the Platonic dialogues, we hypothetize that Plato, not being Socrates, exposed -through a character called Athenian – in his last dialogue, The Laws, in the temporality of the lexis, a project of city radically different from that on The Republic. Such a project is based on the unity of contradictories for the educational formation of the inhabitants of a city composed of friends who really had all things in common; city that should be put into practice, and not just in the metaphysical soul of the philosopher, as Socrates idealistically proposed in The Republic. Thus, far from having abandoned, as some interpreters argue, his youthful communist positions, Plato would have in fact found them, at the end of his life, in a more rigorously determined way. At the end of our article, Marx and Lenin take on the leading role, which suggests that political theory is one of the guiding threads of the millennial dialectical tradition.
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