"A senhora não está conseguindo dar conta do meu filho?": discursividades de professores de uma escola pública de São Paulo
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Resumo: | The discourse is crossed by the ideology and the unconscious that cause the subject and precedes it. The right one feeds the mistake of being the author of his own speech, however he is being crossed by ideologies that speaks for him, because the discursiveness comes before the subject. If the subject does not exist out of the ideology, what is left for him to reflect how it acts upon his relations, depending on the subjective position occupied. Based on this precept and, concerned about the high levels of school dropout and illiteracy, we decided to explore this field. The goal of the current research consisted to interfere on the discourse of teachers and then, analyze the discursiveness that crosses their speech about the relationship between them and the students. Material and method: it is an interventional type research, developed with teachers from a public school in São Paulo. Having as support the Conversation Method, interventional supply proposed by J-A Miller, researchers interacted with teachers and recorded, transcribed, and took notes of the meetings. The collected material composes the corpus, and for the analysis, it was chosen the reading device offered by the Discourse Analysis (DA), begotten by Michel Pêcheux. Results: it is possible to infer that the discursiveness uttered by the teachers puts students in a position that does not define them, but makes them objects of desire for the teacher, resulting the vanishing of their subjectivity, against the impossibility of being the desiring subject. There is a resistance from the teachers to make contact with who the students really are. Therefore, the relationship is based on the teacher’s imaginary, who believes the students meant to be this or that way in order to learn. The teachers have kept imagetically fixed on the ideal of a perfect student, making impossible the teaching and learning process. Some of the displacements were provoked by the interventions, when the teachers could consider themselves fallible on their relationship with the students, who were, at the beginning, the guilty for the school failure. The teachers realized an effort of reflection in favor of the approximation with the students, still with remnants of totalizing discursiveness. It is possible to solve some of the conflicts among teachers and students, depending on a level of symbolic resources that not all teachers have. However, we can observe that teachers are able to solve this conflict, by taking the responsibility for their relationship with students. This manifestation can be understood as a taking back of their position of teacher, invaded by professionals from other areas, who put themselves as masters of an educational knowledge supposedly unknown by the teachers |
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Freire, Regina Maria Ayres de Camargohttp://buscatextual.cnpq.br/buscatextual/visualizacv.do?id=K4438734T4Ferraz, Marcel Amaral Marques2019-06-26T12:04:22Z2019-03-13Ferraz, Marcel Amaral Marques. "A senhora não está conseguindo dar conta do meu filho?": discursividades de professores de uma escola pública de São Paulo. 2019. 167 f. Dissertação (Mestrado em Fonoaudiologia) - Programa de Estudos Pós-Graduados em Fonoaudiologia, Pontifícia Universidade Católica de São Paulo, São Paulo, 2019.https://tede2.pucsp.br/handle/handle/22313The discourse is crossed by the ideology and the unconscious that cause the subject and precedes it. The right one feeds the mistake of being the author of his own speech, however he is being crossed by ideologies that speaks for him, because the discursiveness comes before the subject. If the subject does not exist out of the ideology, what is left for him to reflect how it acts upon his relations, depending on the subjective position occupied. Based on this precept and, concerned about the high levels of school dropout and illiteracy, we decided to explore this field. The goal of the current research consisted to interfere on the discourse of teachers and then, analyze the discursiveness that crosses their speech about the relationship between them and the students. Material and method: it is an interventional type research, developed with teachers from a public school in São Paulo. Having as support the Conversation Method, interventional supply proposed by J-A Miller, researchers interacted with teachers and recorded, transcribed, and took notes of the meetings. The collected material composes the corpus, and for the analysis, it was chosen the reading device offered by the Discourse Analysis (DA), begotten by Michel Pêcheux. Results: it is possible to infer that the discursiveness uttered by the teachers puts students in a position that does not define them, but makes them objects of desire for the teacher, resulting the vanishing of their subjectivity, against the impossibility of being the desiring subject. There is a resistance from the teachers to make contact with who the students really are. Therefore, the relationship is based on the teacher’s imaginary, who believes the students meant to be this or that way in order to learn. The teachers have kept imagetically fixed on the ideal of a perfect student, making impossible the teaching and learning process. Some of the displacements were provoked by the interventions, when the teachers could consider themselves fallible on their relationship with the students, who were, at the beginning, the guilty for the school failure. The teachers realized an effort of reflection in favor of the approximation with the students, still with remnants of totalizing discursiveness. It is possible to solve some of the conflicts among teachers and students, depending on a level of symbolic resources that not all teachers have. However, we can observe that teachers are able to solve this conflict, by taking the responsibility for their relationship with students. This manifestation can be understood as a taking back of their position of teacher, invaded by professionals from other areas, who put themselves as masters of an educational knowledge supposedly unknown by the teachersA fala é atravessada pela ideologia e pelo inconsciente que causam o sujeito e o precedem. Este alimenta o equívoco de ser autor de sua fala, porém é atravessado por ideologias que falam em seu lugar, pois a discursividade é anterior ao sujeito. Se o sujeito inexiste fora da ideologia, resta-lhe refletir sobre como esta age em suas relações, a depender da posição subjetiva que ocupa. Com base nesse preceito e, preocupados com o alto índice de evasão escolar e analfabetismo, decidimos explorar este campo. O objetivo da pesquisa foi intervir sobre as falas dos professores e, posteriormente, analisar as discursividades que atravessam suas falas sobre o relacionamento com os alunos. Material e método: trata-se uma pesquisa de tipo interventiva, desenvolvida com professores de uma escola pública da cidade de São Paulo. Tendo como suporte o método da Conversação, instrumento interventivo proposto por J-A Miller, pesquisadores interagiram com professores e anotaram, gravaram e transcrevam os encontros. O material coletado constituiu o corpus e, para a análise, foi escolhido o dispositivo de leitura ofertado pela Análise de Discurso (AD), engendrada por Michel Pêcheux. Resultados: pode-se inferir que as discursividades proferidas pelos professores colocam o aluno em uma posição que não o define, mas o torna objeto do desejo do professor, culminando no apagamento de sua subjetividade, na impossibilidade de ser reconhecido como sujeito desejante. Há uma resistência do professor em entrar em contato com quem o aluno realmente é. Logo a relação é calcada no imaginário do professor, que crê que o aluno deva ser x ou y para aprender. Os professores se mantiveram fixados imageticamente no aluno ideal, tornando impossível o processo ensino e aprendizagem. Alguns deslocamentos foram provocados pelas intervenções, quando os professores puderam se considerar falíveis na relação com os alunos, antes os culpados pelo fracasso escolar. Os professores realizaram um esforço de reflexão a favor da aproximação com os alunos, ainda com resquícios de discursividades totalizadoras. É possível a resolução de alguns conflitos entre professores e alunos, na dependência de um nível de recursos simbólicos que nem todos os professores possuem. Porém, observa-se que os professores são capazes de dissolver esse conflito, ao se responsabilizarem por sua relação com os alunos. Essa manifestação pode ser entendida como uma retomada do seu lugar de professor, invadido por profissionais de diversas áreas que se colocaram como mestres de um saber educar supostamente não sabido pelo professorCoordenação de Aperfeiçoamento de Pessoal de Nível Superior - CAPESapplication/pdfhttp://tede2.pucsp.br/tede/retrieve/49499/Marcel%20Amaral%20Marques%20Ferraz.pdf.jpgporPontifícia Universidade Católica de São PauloPrograma de Estudos Pós-Graduados em FonoaudiologiaPUC-SPBrasilFaculdade de Ciências Humanas e da SaúdeAnálise do discursoConversaçãoProfessores e alunosDiscourse analysisConversationTeacher-student relationshipsCNPQ::CIENCIAS DA SAUDE::FONOAUDIOLOGIA"A senhora não está conseguindo dar conta do meu filho?": discursividades de professores de uma escola pública de São Pauloinfo:eu-repo/semantics/publishedVersioninfo:eu-repo/semantics/masterThesisinfo:eu-repo/semantics/openAccessreponame:Biblioteca Digital de Teses e Dissertações da PUC_SPinstname:Pontifícia Universidade Católica de São Paulo (PUC-SP)instacron:PUC_SPTEXTMarcel Amaral Marques Ferraz.pdf.txtMarcel Amaral Marques Ferraz.pdf.txtExtracted texttext/plain337702https://repositorio.pucsp.br/xmlui/bitstream/handle/22313/4/Marcel%20Amaral%20Marques%20Ferraz.pdf.txt64081fe4897c8b88e8deef79e15004bcMD54LICENSElicense.txtlicense.txttext/plain; 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"A senhora não está conseguindo dar conta do meu filho?": discursividades de professores de uma escola pública de São Paulo Ferraz, Marcel Amaral Marques Análise do discurso Conversação Professores e alunos Discourse analysis Conversation Teacher-student relationships CNPQ::CIENCIAS DA SAUDE::FONOAUDIOLOGIA |
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"A senhora não está conseguindo dar conta do meu filho?": discursividades de professores de uma escola pública de São Paulo |
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"A senhora não está conseguindo dar conta do meu filho?": discursividades de professores de uma escola pública de São Paulo |
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"A senhora não está conseguindo dar conta do meu filho?": discursividades de professores de uma escola pública de São Paulo |
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"A senhora não está conseguindo dar conta do meu filho?": discursividades de professores de uma escola pública de São Paulo |
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Ferraz, Marcel Amaral Marques |
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Freire, Regina Maria Ayres de Camargo |
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Ferraz, Marcel Amaral Marques |
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Discourse analysis Conversation Teacher-student relationships |
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The discourse is crossed by the ideology and the unconscious that cause the subject and precedes it. The right one feeds the mistake of being the author of his own speech, however he is being crossed by ideologies that speaks for him, because the discursiveness comes before the subject. If the subject does not exist out of the ideology, what is left for him to reflect how it acts upon his relations, depending on the subjective position occupied. Based on this precept and, concerned about the high levels of school dropout and illiteracy, we decided to explore this field. The goal of the current research consisted to interfere on the discourse of teachers and then, analyze the discursiveness that crosses their speech about the relationship between them and the students. Material and method: it is an interventional type research, developed with teachers from a public school in São Paulo. Having as support the Conversation Method, interventional supply proposed by J-A Miller, researchers interacted with teachers and recorded, transcribed, and took notes of the meetings. The collected material composes the corpus, and for the analysis, it was chosen the reading device offered by the Discourse Analysis (DA), begotten by Michel Pêcheux. Results: it is possible to infer that the discursiveness uttered by the teachers puts students in a position that does not define them, but makes them objects of desire for the teacher, resulting the vanishing of their subjectivity, against the impossibility of being the desiring subject. There is a resistance from the teachers to make contact with who the students really are. Therefore, the relationship is based on the teacher’s imaginary, who believes the students meant to be this or that way in order to learn. The teachers have kept imagetically fixed on the ideal of a perfect student, making impossible the teaching and learning process. Some of the displacements were provoked by the interventions, when the teachers could consider themselves fallible on their relationship with the students, who were, at the beginning, the guilty for the school failure. The teachers realized an effort of reflection in favor of the approximation with the students, still with remnants of totalizing discursiveness. It is possible to solve some of the conflicts among teachers and students, depending on a level of symbolic resources that not all teachers have. However, we can observe that teachers are able to solve this conflict, by taking the responsibility for their relationship with students. This manifestation can be understood as a taking back of their position of teacher, invaded by professionals from other areas, who put themselves as masters of an educational knowledge supposedly unknown by the teachers |
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