Ferdinand de Saussure and the production of the object of the Discourse Analysis

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Autor(a) principal: Narzetti, Claudiana Nair Pothin
Data de Publicação: 2017
Tipo de documento: Artigo
Idioma: por
Título da fonte: Gragoatá
Texto Completo: https://periodicos.uff.br/gragoata/article/view/33550
Resumo: The main historians from French discourse analysis are unanimous in declare that the discourse theory rests on some Ferdinad de Saussure essencial concepts. The founder texts from this investigation field, in turn, goes in the same way. This paper main objective is to contribute about the problemematic relation between the French discourse analysis and the Saussure formulations, mainly focusing on how Michel Pêcheux did the reading from the renowed linguist enables the theoric object discourse production. Our point of view consists in consider that an important comprehension key from the Saussure linguistic relation with the discourse theory could be found when you have the Pêcheux theoretical project knowledge and from the theoretical-epistemological who chairs the discourse analysis production as a knowledge field. Adopting a historical perspective, we will discuss questions that are yet marked by misunderstanding and incomprehenssions nowadays, such as: Which is the Saussure discourse theory concepts right place? Where does the thought about Saussure discourse theory work emerge concretely? Why does Pêcheux took Saussure as base for the theory discourse construction? Is there continuity or discontinuity (rupture) between discourse analysis and Saussure? Does the discourse concept is the reformulation from the saussurean speech concept?  The basis of Saussure's (and other linguists) thinking necessarily implies an insertion of discourse analysis as a branch of linguistics? ---DOI: http://dx.doi.org/10.22409/gragoata.2017n44a1019
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spelling Ferdinand de Saussure and the production of the object of the Discourse AnalysisFerdinand de Saussure e a produção do objeto da Análise do DiscursoFrench Discourse AnalysisLinguisticsFerdinand de Saussure.Análise do discurso francesaLinguísticaFerdinand de Saussure.The main historians from French discourse analysis are unanimous in declare that the discourse theory rests on some Ferdinad de Saussure essencial concepts. The founder texts from this investigation field, in turn, goes in the same way. This paper main objective is to contribute about the problemematic relation between the French discourse analysis and the Saussure formulations, mainly focusing on how Michel Pêcheux did the reading from the renowed linguist enables the theoric object discourse production. Our point of view consists in consider that an important comprehension key from the Saussure linguistic relation with the discourse theory could be found when you have the Pêcheux theoretical project knowledge and from the theoretical-epistemological who chairs the discourse analysis production as a knowledge field. Adopting a historical perspective, we will discuss questions that are yet marked by misunderstanding and incomprehenssions nowadays, such as: Which is the Saussure discourse theory concepts right place? Where does the thought about Saussure discourse theory work emerge concretely? Why does Pêcheux took Saussure as base for the theory discourse construction? Is there continuity or discontinuity (rupture) between discourse analysis and Saussure? Does the discourse concept is the reformulation from the saussurean speech concept?  The basis of Saussure's (and other linguists) thinking necessarily implies an insertion of discourse analysis as a branch of linguistics? ---DOI: http://dx.doi.org/10.22409/gragoata.2017n44a1019Os principais historiadores da Análise do discurso francesa são unânimes em afirmar que a teoria do discurso assenta em alguns conceitos basilares de Ferdinand de Saussure. Os textos fundadores desse campo de investigação, por sua vez, vão no mesmo sentido. Este trabalho visa a dar uma contribuição sobre o problema da relação entre a AD francesa e as formulações de Saussure, enfocando principalmente o modo como a leitura que Michel Pêcheux faz do célebre linguista possibilita a produção do objeto teórico discurso. Nosso ponto de vista consiste em considerar que uma importante chave de compreensão da relação da linguística de Saussure com a teoria do discurso pode ser encontrada quando se tem conhecimento do projeto teórico de Pêcheux e da prática teórico-epistemológica que preside a produção da Análise do discurso como campo de saber. Adotando uma perspectiva histórica, discutiremos questões ainda hoje marcadas por mal-entendidos e incompreensões, tais como: Qual o lugar dos conceitos de Saussure na teoria do discurso? Onde aparece concretamente o trabalho sobre o pensamento de Saussure na teoria do discurso? Por que Pêcheux tomou Saussure como base para a construção de uma teoria do discurso? Há continuidade ou descontinuidade (ruptura) entre a AD e Saussure? O conceito de discurso é a reformulação do conceito saussureano de fala? O embasamento no pensamento de Saussure (e de outros linguistas) implica necessariamente uma inserção da AD como um ramo da linguística? ---DOI: http://dx.doi.org/10.22409/gragoata.2017n44a1019Universidade Federal Fluminense2017-12-22info:eu-repo/semantics/articleinfo:eu-repo/semantics/publishedVersionapplication/pdfhttps://periodicos.uff.br/gragoata/article/view/3355010.22409/gragoata.v22i44.33550Gragoatá; Vol. 22 No. 44 (2017): From language to discourse: theoretical paradigms; 1087-1102Gragoatá; v. 22 n. 44 (2017): Da língua ao discurso: paradigmas teóricos; 1087-11022358-41141413-907310.22409/gragoata.v22i44reponame:Gragoatáinstname:Universidade Federal Fluminense (UFF)instacron:UFFporhttps://periodicos.uff.br/gragoata/article/view/33550/19537Copyright (c) 2018 Gragoatáinfo:eu-repo/semantics/openAccessNarzetti, Claudiana Nair Pothin2019-08-23T11:12:09Zoai:ojs.pkp.sfu.ca:article/33550Revistahttps://periodicos.uff.br/gragoataPUBhttps://periodicos.uff.br/gragoata/oai||revistagragoata@gmail.com2358-41141413-9073opendoar:2019-08-23T11:12:09Gragoatá - Universidade Federal Fluminense (UFF)false
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Ferdinand de Saussure e a produção do objeto da Análise do Discurso
title Ferdinand de Saussure and the production of the object of the Discourse Analysis
spellingShingle Ferdinand de Saussure and the production of the object of the Discourse Analysis
Narzetti, Claudiana Nair Pothin
French Discourse Analysis
Linguistics
Ferdinand de Saussure.
Análise do discurso francesa
Linguística
Ferdinand de Saussure.
title_short Ferdinand de Saussure and the production of the object of the Discourse Analysis
title_full Ferdinand de Saussure and the production of the object of the Discourse Analysis
title_fullStr Ferdinand de Saussure and the production of the object of the Discourse Analysis
title_full_unstemmed Ferdinand de Saussure and the production of the object of the Discourse Analysis
title_sort Ferdinand de Saussure and the production of the object of the Discourse Analysis
author Narzetti, Claudiana Nair Pothin
author_facet Narzetti, Claudiana Nair Pothin
author_role author
dc.contributor.author.fl_str_mv Narzetti, Claudiana Nair Pothin
dc.subject.por.fl_str_mv French Discourse Analysis
Linguistics
Ferdinand de Saussure.
Análise do discurso francesa
Linguística
Ferdinand de Saussure.
topic French Discourse Analysis
Linguistics
Ferdinand de Saussure.
Análise do discurso francesa
Linguística
Ferdinand de Saussure.
description The main historians from French discourse analysis are unanimous in declare that the discourse theory rests on some Ferdinad de Saussure essencial concepts. The founder texts from this investigation field, in turn, goes in the same way. This paper main objective is to contribute about the problemematic relation between the French discourse analysis and the Saussure formulations, mainly focusing on how Michel Pêcheux did the reading from the renowed linguist enables the theoric object discourse production. Our point of view consists in consider that an important comprehension key from the Saussure linguistic relation with the discourse theory could be found when you have the Pêcheux theoretical project knowledge and from the theoretical-epistemological who chairs the discourse analysis production as a knowledge field. Adopting a historical perspective, we will discuss questions that are yet marked by misunderstanding and incomprehenssions nowadays, such as: Which is the Saussure discourse theory concepts right place? Where does the thought about Saussure discourse theory work emerge concretely? Why does Pêcheux took Saussure as base for the theory discourse construction? Is there continuity or discontinuity (rupture) between discourse analysis and Saussure? Does the discourse concept is the reformulation from the saussurean speech concept?  The basis of Saussure's (and other linguists) thinking necessarily implies an insertion of discourse analysis as a branch of linguistics? ---DOI: http://dx.doi.org/10.22409/gragoata.2017n44a1019
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