“Cutting Them Down to Size”: Humbling and Protreptic in Plato’s Lysis

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Autor(a) principal: Anderson, Trevor
Data de Publicação: 2023
Outros Autores: Comstock, Reid
Tipo de documento: Artigo
Idioma: eng
Título da fonte: Revista Archai (Online)
Texto Completo: https://periodicos.unb.br/index.php/archai/article/view/48151
Resumo: This article examines the role that humbling plays in Socratic practice. Specifically, we consider how Socrates humbles his interlocutors in order to turn them towards the pursuit of philosophical friendship. We argue against a standard interpretation of humbling in the Lysis, which holds that Socrates humbles Lysis by exposing his own ignorance to him at 210d. Instead, we argue that the humbling occurs not when Lysis is (allegedly) made aware of his own ignorance, but at 222d near the end of the dialogue, when Lysis is made to think that he is not as good a friend as he thought he was. On this reading, Socrates humbles Lysis not by exposing to him his ignorance about theoretical matters but by suggesting to him that he may be not the sort of person he thought he was.  
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spelling “Cutting Them Down to Size”: Humbling and Protreptic in Plato’s LysisHumblingProtrepticElenchusMethodSocrates This article examines the role that humbling plays in Socratic practice. Specifically, we consider how Socrates humbles his interlocutors in order to turn them towards the pursuit of philosophical friendship. We argue against a standard interpretation of humbling in the Lysis, which holds that Socrates humbles Lysis by exposing his own ignorance to him at 210d. Instead, we argue that the humbling occurs not when Lysis is (allegedly) made aware of his own ignorance, but at 222d near the end of the dialogue, when Lysis is made to think that he is not as good a friend as he thought he was. On this reading, Socrates humbles Lysis not by exposing to him his ignorance about theoretical matters but by suggesting to him that he may be not the sort of person he thought he was.  Cátedra UNESCO Archai (Universidade de Brasília); Imprensa da Universidade de Coimbra, Portugal; Annablume Editora, São Paulo, Brasil2023-01-23info:eu-repo/semantics/articleinfo:eu-repo/semantics/publishedVersionapplication/pdfhttps://periodicos.unb.br/index.php/archai/article/view/4815110.14195/1984-249X_32_38Revista Archai; No. 32 (2022): Archai 32 (2022): Supplementum; e03238Archai Journal; n. 32 (2022): Archai 32 (2022): Supplementum; e032381984-249X2179-4960reponame:Revista Archai (Online)instname:Universidade de Brasília (UnB)instacron:UNBenghttps://periodicos.unb.br/index.php/archai/article/view/48151/36764Copyright (c) 2023 Trevor Anderson, Reid Comstockhttps://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0info:eu-repo/semantics/openAccessAnderson, TrevorComstock, Reid2023-05-02T22:06:07Zoai:ojs.pkp.sfu.ca:article/48151Revistahttps://periodicos.unb.br/index.php/archaiPUBhttps://periodicos.unb.br/index.php/archai/oai||archaijournal@unb.br|| cornelli@unb.br1984-249X1984-249Xopendoar:2023-05-02T22:06:07Revista Archai (Online) - Universidade de Brasília (UnB)false
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title “Cutting Them Down to Size”: Humbling and Protreptic in Plato’s Lysis
spellingShingle “Cutting Them Down to Size”: Humbling and Protreptic in Plato’s Lysis
Anderson, Trevor
Humbling
Protreptic
Elenchus
Method
Socrates
title_short “Cutting Them Down to Size”: Humbling and Protreptic in Plato’s Lysis
title_full “Cutting Them Down to Size”: Humbling and Protreptic in Plato’s Lysis
title_fullStr “Cutting Them Down to Size”: Humbling and Protreptic in Plato’s Lysis
title_full_unstemmed “Cutting Them Down to Size”: Humbling and Protreptic in Plato’s Lysis
title_sort “Cutting Them Down to Size”: Humbling and Protreptic in Plato’s Lysis
author Anderson, Trevor
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Comstock, Reid
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Comstock, Reid
dc.subject.por.fl_str_mv Humbling
Protreptic
Elenchus
Method
Socrates
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Protreptic
Elenchus
Method
Socrates
description This article examines the role that humbling plays in Socratic practice. Specifically, we consider how Socrates humbles his interlocutors in order to turn them towards the pursuit of philosophical friendship. We argue against a standard interpretation of humbling in the Lysis, which holds that Socrates humbles Lysis by exposing his own ignorance to him at 210d. Instead, we argue that the humbling occurs not when Lysis is (allegedly) made aware of his own ignorance, but at 222d near the end of the dialogue, when Lysis is made to think that he is not as good a friend as he thought he was. On this reading, Socrates humbles Lysis not by exposing to him his ignorance about theoretical matters but by suggesting to him that he may be not the sort of person he thought he was.  
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