“I want to die many times if this is true” (Plat., Ap., 41b). Socrates, Palamedes, and the rhetorical exercises in the horizon of the Socratic dialogue

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Autor(a) principal: Mársico, Claudia
Data de Publicação: 2021
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Resumo: The figure of Socrates divides the history of Western thought into two parts. It inaugurates a model of philosophy that shaped all subsequent tradition with the sole force of its influence and the totemic aura from his tragic death. There were many accounts of what happened, but none of them overshadowed Plato's Apology of Socrates as a fundamental text for entering into the details of the trial and sentence. In this context, the opacity of this text is rarely taken into account. It seems to be a testimonial document, a quasi-stenographic version of the process, but it is not. In fact, we are interested in referring to a fact that has been noted but not entirely dimensioned: Plato's Apology of Socrates presents similarities impossible to attribute to mere chance with Gorgias’ Apology of Palamedes. Why does this Platonic text present curious intertextual relationships with a rhetorical exercise based on mythical figures in the climate of the promotion of rhetoric? We will try to answer this question appealing to its link with the origin of the Socratic dialogue.
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spelling “I want to die many times if this is true” (Plat., Ap., 41b). Socrates, Palamedes, and the rhetorical exercises in the horizon of the Socratic dialogue“Quiero morir muchas veces si esto es verdad” (Plat., Ap., 41b). Sócrates, Palamedes y los ejercicios retóricos en el horizonte del diálogo socráticoSocratesApologyGorgiasSócratesApologíaGorgias The figure of Socrates divides the history of Western thought into two parts. It inaugurates a model of philosophy that shaped all subsequent tradition with the sole force of its influence and the totemic aura from his tragic death. There were many accounts of what happened, but none of them overshadowed Plato's Apology of Socrates as a fundamental text for entering into the details of the trial and sentence. In this context, the opacity of this text is rarely taken into account. It seems to be a testimonial document, a quasi-stenographic version of the process, but it is not. In fact, we are interested in referring to a fact that has been noted but not entirely dimensioned: Plato's Apology of Socrates presents similarities impossible to attribute to mere chance with Gorgias’ Apology of Palamedes. Why does this Platonic text present curious intertextual relationships with a rhetorical exercise based on mythical figures in the climate of the promotion of rhetoric? We will try to answer this question appealing to its link with the origin of the Socratic dialogue. La figura de Sócrates separa la historia del pensamiento en dos e inaugura un modelo de filosofía que impactó en toda la tradición posterior con la sola fuerza de su influjo y el halo totémico de su muerte trágica. No faltaronrelatos de lo acaecido, pero entre ellos ninguno opaca a la Apología de Sócrates de Platón como texto fundamental para adentrarse en los pormenores del juicio y la condena. En este contexto poco suele tenerse en cuenta que se trata de un texto transido deopacidad. Parece un documento testimonial, una versión cuasi taquigráfica del proceso, pero no lo es. En efecto, nos interesa referirnos especialmente a un hecho que ha sido notado pero no del todo dimensionado: la Apología de Sócrates de Platón presenta similitudes imposibles de atribuir a la mera casualidad con la Apología de Palamedes de Gorgias. ¿Por qué este texto platónico presenta curiosas relaciones intertextuales con un ejercicio retórico basado en figuras míticas en el clima de la promoción de laretórica? Trataremos de responder esa pregunta apelando a su relación con el origen del diálogo socrático.Cátedra UNESCO Archai (Universidade de Brasília); Imprensa da Universidade de Coimbra, Portugal; Annablume Editora, São Paulo, Brasil2021-06-12info:eu-repo/semantics/articleinfo:eu-repo/semantics/publishedVersionapplication/pdfhttps://periodicos.unb.br/index.php/archai/article/view/3851510.14195/1984-249X_31_06Revista Archai; No. 31 (2021): Archai 31 (2021)Archai Journal; n. 31 (2021): Archai 31 (2021)1984-249X2179-496010.14195/1984-249X_31reponame:Revista Archai (Online)instname:Universidade de Brasília (UnB)instacron:UNBspahttps://periodicos.unb.br/index.php/archai/article/view/38515/30046Copyright (c) 2021 Claudia Mársicohttps://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0info:eu-repo/semantics/openAccessMársico, Claudia2021-06-18T18:41:44Zoai:ojs.pkp.sfu.ca:article/38515Revistahttps://periodicos.unb.br/index.php/archaiPUBhttps://periodicos.unb.br/index.php/archai/oai||archaijournal@unb.br|| cornelli@unb.br1984-249X1984-249Xopendoar:2021-06-18T18:41:44Revista Archai (Online) - Universidade de Brasília (UnB)false
dc.title.none.fl_str_mv “I want to die many times if this is true” (Plat., Ap., 41b). Socrates, Palamedes, and the rhetorical exercises in the horizon of the Socratic dialogue
“Quiero morir muchas veces si esto es verdad” (Plat., Ap., 41b). Sócrates, Palamedes y los ejercicios retóricos en el horizonte del diálogo socrático
title “I want to die many times if this is true” (Plat., Ap., 41b). Socrates, Palamedes, and the rhetorical exercises in the horizon of the Socratic dialogue
spellingShingle “I want to die many times if this is true” (Plat., Ap., 41b). Socrates, Palamedes, and the rhetorical exercises in the horizon of the Socratic dialogue
Mársico, Claudia
Socrates
Apology
Gorgias
Sócrates
Apología
Gorgias
title_short “I want to die many times if this is true” (Plat., Ap., 41b). Socrates, Palamedes, and the rhetorical exercises in the horizon of the Socratic dialogue
title_full “I want to die many times if this is true” (Plat., Ap., 41b). Socrates, Palamedes, and the rhetorical exercises in the horizon of the Socratic dialogue
title_fullStr “I want to die many times if this is true” (Plat., Ap., 41b). Socrates, Palamedes, and the rhetorical exercises in the horizon of the Socratic dialogue
title_full_unstemmed “I want to die many times if this is true” (Plat., Ap., 41b). Socrates, Palamedes, and the rhetorical exercises in the horizon of the Socratic dialogue
title_sort “I want to die many times if this is true” (Plat., Ap., 41b). Socrates, Palamedes, and the rhetorical exercises in the horizon of the Socratic dialogue
author Mársico, Claudia
author_facet Mársico, Claudia
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dc.subject.por.fl_str_mv Socrates
Apology
Gorgias
Sócrates
Apología
Gorgias
topic Socrates
Apology
Gorgias
Sócrates
Apología
Gorgias
description The figure of Socrates divides the history of Western thought into two parts. It inaugurates a model of philosophy that shaped all subsequent tradition with the sole force of its influence and the totemic aura from his tragic death. There were many accounts of what happened, but none of them overshadowed Plato's Apology of Socrates as a fundamental text for entering into the details of the trial and sentence. In this context, the opacity of this text is rarely taken into account. It seems to be a testimonial document, a quasi-stenographic version of the process, but it is not. In fact, we are interested in referring to a fact that has been noted but not entirely dimensioned: Plato's Apology of Socrates presents similarities impossible to attribute to mere chance with Gorgias’ Apology of Palamedes. Why does this Platonic text present curious intertextual relationships with a rhetorical exercise based on mythical figures in the climate of the promotion of rhetoric? We will try to answer this question appealing to its link with the origin of the Socratic dialogue.
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